Showing posts with label succession. Show all posts
Showing posts with label succession. Show all posts

Friday, August 28, 2020

This Day in History, 1955/1963/2008 - Updated

On this day in history:

65 years ago: 14 year-old Emmett Till was murdered in Mississippi. (Read more here)

57 years ago: The 1963 March on Washington and Martin Luther King Jr.'s I Have A Dream speech.

There's another march today:



12 years ago: Barack Obama accepts the Democratic nomination for president


Update: Something else that happened on August 28 is that this picture was taken:



We know who Pete Seeger was, but who was Henry Wallace? He was one of President Franklin Roosevelt's three vice presidents. He replaced John Nance Garner in 1940, after Garner had served two terms, and was himself replaced in 1944 by Harry Truman. The tweet above led to some fun What If/Counterfactual History tweets about a topic that intrigues me, vice presidential succession:







And speaking of vice presidents, back here in the real world, Mike Pence has now accepted the nomination to run for VP again, so the Dump Pence movement is (almost certainly) over.

Friday, January 24, 2020

presidentpence.com - Updated



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Yes, the url in the title of this post is a real website. Is it somehow connected to Mike Pence? Possibly. (And possibly not. Slogans like "Pence, Well I Guess He'll Do," "Pence, It Could Be Worse," and "Pence, It's An Improvement," are not exactly ringing endorsements. They actually rhyme with what I've said here before, which is that while anyone, anyone, would be better than Donald, in the case of Mike Pence, not by much. Check out the website here.) I've said here before that Pence is publicly loyal to Donald while privately salivating over the possibility that he'll be removed from office. I've also noted that any vice president, no matter how loyal, has more to gain from a presidential removal than anybody else. Is Mike Pence, behind the scenes, pushing for Donald's removal by reminding people that if Donald is removed, it's not Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi who moves up? It wouldn't surprise me.















Click here to read my previous posts about Mike Pence. 

Update on Saturday afternoon: 



Update #2 on Tuesday afternoon. Bill Kristol and his friends are still trying to get Mike Pence promoted (or possibly just trying to drive Donald crazy):







Thursday, January 10, 2019

Changes To The Line Of Succession (And Thinking About The VP) - Updated

With the installation of the 116th U.S. Congress, there have been a couple of changes to the line of succession to the presidency:

  1. VP: Mike Pence
  2. Speaker of the House: Nancy Pelosi
  3. President Pro Tempore of the Senate: Chuck Grassley
  4. Secretary of State: Mike Pompeo
  5. Secretary of the Treasury: Steve Mnuchin

No, not at the top. Donald is still in the White House, at least for now, and first-in-line VP Mike Pence is still doing his best to appear loyal in public while privately salivating over the possibility that Donald will in fact get booted out of office.

The changes are in the middle of the list. Former Speaker Paul Ryan is now out of government and Nancy Pelosi is once again 2nd in line as Speaker of the House. Former President Pro Tempore of the Senate Orrin Hatch has retired and Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley is now third in line. (What, exactly, is the President Pro Tempore of the Senate? It's a leadership position in the senate, traditionally held by the most senior senator in the majority party.) Fourth and fifth in line are unchanged since Mike Pompeo was confirmed as Secretary of State in April.

Note that our old friend Mitt Romney is, after 12 years in the wilderness and three attempts to become president, once again on the government payroll at the age of 71. He was elected to Hatch's Utah senate seat as expected, but he didn't slide into Hatch's place in the line of succession. Poor Mittens is 97th in seniority out of 100 senators. (Who does he outrank? Fellow newbies Mike Braun of Indiana, Josh Hawley of Missouri and Rick Scott of Florida.)

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photo credit: Washington Post

With the churn in the line of succession, not to mention the incompetent chaos of the Trump administration, I admit I've been thinking about Mike Pence recently. Confession: I don't like him and I don't want to see him as president. (Yes, anyone, anyone, would be better than Donald, but in the case of Mike Pence, not by much.) Still, as we approach the halfway point of Donald's term, I think there's a good possibility he doesn't make it to January 20, 2021. What then? Pence accedes to the presidency. What happens next? I believe three things will be true:

1. Former president Donald Trump will be extremely unpopular. He's historically unpopular now but I'm not talking about now. I'm talking about six or nine or twelve months from now when all the bad stuff has come out about what a truly wretched, dishonest, treasonous, criminal degenerate pig Donald Trump really is. Richard Nixon was reviled when he left office and Donald will be too.

2. Many, many Republicans will try to rewrite history and pretend that they never had anything to do with Donald.

3. What newly-elevated President Pence will care most about is keeping his new job. In other words, he'll want to win reelection in 2020 and to do that, he'll need to separate himself from Donald. He may not say, in his first speech, that "Our long national nightmare is over," as Gerald Ford did when he assumed the presidency in 1974, but you know Pence will try very hard to make voters believe that the whole unmitigated disaster of the Trump presidency had nothing to do with him.

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photo credit: Politico

That's not going to happen. Trust me when I tell you that the Democrats won't let anyone forget that Mike Pence sold his soul to the devil, as the saying goes, so that he would be in position to benefit if/when Donald flamed out. Unlike Gerald Ford, who was Nixon's second vice president, sworn into office in December, 1973, just eight months before Nixon's resignation and untainted by Watergate, Pence has been at Donald's side since the convention in July, 2016. There are many, many pictures of Pence standing sweetly next to Donald, starry-eyed with admiration (and yes, gratitude.) There are dozens of interviews and speeches in which VP Pence proclaims Donald's greatness. If Pence is the Republican nominee in 2020 you can expect to see those pictures and videos everywhere during the campaign.

I know I've wandered into the weeds a bit in this post, but there's one more thing on my mind as I ponder Mike Pence's future. A month after Gerald Ford became president he issued an unconditional pardon of Richard Nixon. He did it partly out of compassion for Nixon and his family, partly because he believed that having to resign the presidency counted as a serious punishment, meaning that Nixon didn't "get off scot-free," and partly so he (Ford) and the country could move on from Watergate.

Would Pence follow Ford's lead and pardon Donald, if he was in a position to do so? Ford's pardon of Nixon was volcanically unpopular and the conventional wisdom is that it played a significant part in Ford's loss to Jimmy Carter in 1976. I think it's accurate to say that Ford didn't anticipate how unpopular the Nixon pardon would be. (In his memoir, Ford wrote that he was surprised at how little compassion American voters felt for Richard Nixon after he resigned. I wonder how much compassion Americans would feel for Donald Trump.) President Ford had no historic precedent to look to for guidance but Pence would have one. Based on Ford's experience, my best guess right now is that even if Pence wanted to pardon Donald, he wouldn't do it before the 2020 election. Too risky.

In our "what if" scenario, Donald's best shot at a pardon would probably be a Pence loss in 2020. Soon-to-be former President Pence could issue the pardon on Inauguration Day, 2021, right before he walks out the door of the White House for the last time, which is when outgoing presidents traditionally issue pardons that are expected to be controversial or unpopular. Would he? Pence, who would be 61 at the time, presumably would be looking forward to enjoying the cushy life of a former president. (He could also, of course, be thinking about running again in 2024.) Would he be willing to risk his popularity, and possibly some of his future income from paid speeches and a memoir, by taking the heat for letting Donald off the hook? There's no way to know right now but I'd say it's not a given.

Enough speculating for now. The next two years are going to be fascinating, if not particularly enjoyable. Two years from today we'll be 10 days away from Inauguration Day. Will it be President Trump, preparing for a second term? President Pence, elected in his own right and starting his first full term? (Because Pence would have served less than half of Donald's term, he would be eligible to run again in 2024.) President Warren? President Inslee? President Biden? I'm going to be watching closely. Election day 2020 is only 662 days away.

Update on January 16: Someone is indulging in a little wishful thinking. Don't get too excited, this really is "fake news":


Naturally the real Washington Post is not happy:

Update #2 on January 21, Martin Luther King Jr. Day. VP Pence compares Donald to Dr. King:

And here's a picture of Mike adoring Donald, accompanying a story at the Washington Post:


photo credit: Alex Brandon/AP

Sunday, January 6, 2019

The Guessing Game - Updated

What will be on the cover of People this week? My guesses:

Nancy Pelosi: Her second turn as Speaker of the House, she's now the most powerful woman in government and 2nd in line for the presidency. A story about some of the other women who were sworn into Congress this week is also a possibility
Kim K and Kanye: Expecting their 4th child, via surrogate
Arie and Lauren: Last year's Bachelor is getting married in Hawaii on January 12. If the wedding goes off as planned I'll have to eat a little crow. When Arie's botched finale aired last year, in which he broke up with Becca and took up with Lauren, I said that pigs would dance on Mars before Arie and Lauren got married. I gave it six months, tops. (Read that post here.)
Daryl Dragon: The captain of 70's duo The Captain and Tenille dies
Olivia Newton John: Denies rumors that she's near death
Sara Haines: The GMA Day anchor is expecting her third child at 41
Lindsey Lohan: A new show on MTV
Kevin Hart: A conversation with Ellen, she calls on the Academy to reinstate him, will he host the Oscars after all? If not him, then who?
Kathy Griffin: Talks about her mother's dementia
Bethany Frankel: A life-threatening allergy to fish
R. Kelly: Multiple accusations of sexual abuse of women, seen on Lifetime TV's new show Surviving R. Kelly
Britney Spears: Announces a break from performing due to her father's illness
Kate Middleton: Turns 37 on Wednesday
The Golden Globes: The big show is tonight
Jazmine Barnes: A 7-year-old African-American girl was fatally shot in Texas, apparently randomly. On Sunday morning a suspect was arrested
The Bobbitts: They're back in the news, 25 years after this:

Issue dated November 13, 1993
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Stories that appear on the cover of the new issue will be highlighted in green.

Update on Tuesday morning. Marie Kondo: The organizing guru has a new show on Netflix.

Update #2 on Wednesday morning: See the new cover, featuring Nicole Kidman, here.

Wednesday, April 11, 2018

Changes In The Line Of Succession - Updated

The rumors have been out there but it's still a bombshell. Representative Paul Ryan, former Republican candidate for VP and current Speaker of the House, will retire at the end of his current term. Wow. At age 48, he's young to be leaving and it's been said that he has (or had) presidential aspirations, so why, exactly, is he leaving? He says it's to spend more time with his family. Yes, his current job is probably all-consuming and he probably would like to spend more time with his kids, who are now teen-agers. On the other hand, "spend time with my family" has become a go-to cliche for politicians who resign in advance of, or due to, some kind of scandal. Right now I'm not aware of any specific scandal surrounding Ryan, but stay tuned.

Anyway, a retiring Speaker affects the line of succession to the presidency, and you know I'm interested in that. There's already some churn at the top of the list, so let's take a look. Currently the first five places in line look like this:

1. Vice President: Mike Pence. Unchanged since the inauguration. Pence would get a big promotion if for any reason the current president doesn't complete his term.

2. Speaker of the House: Paul Ryan. Retiring in January, 2019, at the end of his current term. Who will replace him? It depends on the results of the mid-term election in November. If Democrats regain control of the House, Nancy Pelosi would probably, but not certainly, be the next Speaker. If Republicans retain control, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy and House Majority Whip Steve Scalise are considered to be the top choices.

3. President Pro Tem of the Senate: Orrin Hatch. Also retiring in January at the completion of his current term. Who takes his place? Not Mitt Romney. Mittens will almost certainly be elected to fill Hatch's senate seat, but he'll be a very junior senator. The title of President Pro Tem goes to the longest-serving senator of the majority party. If the Republicans keep the majority, Chuck Grassley of Iowa becomes President Pro Tem. If the Democrats take over, it would be Patrick Leahy of Vermont.

4. Secretary of State: Vacant since Rex Tillerson got fired. Deputy Secretary John J. Sullivan is currently filling in as Acting Secretary of State. CIA Director Mike Pompeo has been nominated to succeed Tillerson.

5. Secretary of the Treasury: Steve Mnuchin. No change here, as far as I know.

Update on April 27: Former CIA Director Mike Pompeo has been confirmed and is now the Secretary of State. That makes him #4 in the line of succession to the presidency.

Thursday, May 18, 2017

The Line

Every now and then I blog about the line of succession to the presidency. (Previous examples here and here.) It's on my mind again today, for some reason (ha ha) so here we go. The first five people currently in the line of succession are:

  1. Vice President Mike Pence
  2. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan
  3. President pro tem of the Senate Orrin Hatch
  4. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
  5. Secretary of the Treasury Steve Mnuchin
Just something to think about on a slow news day... 

Saturday, May 30, 2015

Speaker Of The House

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There was a time when I would have said there was no way the governor of New York was paying money to have sex with a prostitute. I would have said there was no way John Edwards had a girlfriend and an illegitimate daughter. I would have said there was no way the junior senator from Nevada was having an affair with the wife of one of his closest friends and I would have said there way no way the governor of South Carolina had a girlfriend in Argentina.

Way. I would have been wrong in all four cases. That's a long way of saying that at this point I was pretty sure that nothing a politician does could surprise me. Even so, I probably would have said that there was no way former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, of Illinois, of course, was not only hiding a deep, dark sex secret but had agreed to pay $3.5 million to keep it secret. Yikes.

We're now in the middle of the media feeding frenzy I call Sex Scandal 101 and the Hastert thing will play out over the coming days and weeks, with all the tawdry details trickling out as they always do. I'll be keeping an eye on, and possibly blogging about, the scandal but for right now, I find that I'm most intrigued by thinking about the position of Speaker of the House. It's the top leadership role in the House of Representatives, but as most of the media stories about Hastert have pointed out, the Speaker is also second in the line of succession to the presidency, right behind the Vice President.

(Brief rant about details: I've seen a couple of articles saying that the Speaker is third in line. No. Just no. The President isn't in line. He's the President. The VP is first in line and the Speaker is second. Who's third? The Senate President pro tempore. Current titleholder: Senator Orrin Hatch.)

Anyway, no big deal, right? Second in line, how important can that be? We've always got a Vice President, right? Actually no. On three occasions in the last 50 years or so the country has been without a VP, twice for a few weeks and once for over a year, putting the Speaker of the House one heartbeat away from becoming President.

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In the 1970s it happened twice, both times connected to Richard Nixon. On October 10, 1973, VP Spiro Agnew resigned after being charged with accepting bribes. From that day until December 6, 1973, when Representative Gerald Ford was confirmed and sworn in as Vice President, there was no VP.

Eight months later President Nixon resigned as a result of the Watergate scandal and on August 9, 1974, Vice President Ford succeeded to the presidency. Nelson Rockefeller was selected to be the VP and was sworn in on December 19; until then the country was once again without a VP. Who would have become president if anything had happened to Nixon in 1973 or to Ford in 1974? Speaker of the House Carl Albert, a Democrat from Oklahoma.

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The country was also without a VP for over a year from November 22, 1963, when Lyndon Johnson succeeded President Kennedy, until January 20, 1965, when Hubert Humphrey was inaugurated as VP after having been elected along with Johnson in November 1964. According to William Manchester in The Death of a President, there was some drama surrounding Speaker of the House John McCormack, who refused Secret Service protection, saying it was an intrusion:

When Johnson reached Washington [flying home from Dallas after the assassination] McCormack insisted that the Secret Service must discontinue all interest in him at once. Because of the Speaker's political power his extraordinary demand was honored that Friday. Thus the man next in line was without security protection for fourteen months. It was one of the best-kept secrets in the government. Those who knew of it did not even mention it to one another until Hubert Humphrey had been sworn in.  

I know. I'm a geek and it'll probably never happen, at least in real life. It did happen in the alternate universe of The West Wing, thanks to the imagination of Aaron Sorkin. At the end of season four, Vice President Hoynes is found to be having an affair and resigns; shortly thereafter President Bartlet's daughter is kidnapped. Feeling that he is too distraught to lead the country, the president temporarily steps aside and with no VP, Speaker of the House Glen Allen Walken, played by John Goodman, takes the oath as president. Watch it here:



Sunday morning update: I've written about presidential succession, and posted this video, before. (Here and here, for example.) I want to again point out that the typo in the title isn't from me. That's how it's labeled on YouTube.)

Saturday, November 8, 2014

Presidential Succession

As a result of the mid-term election, the Republicans will become the majority party and Mitch McConnell will become the senate majority leader. The majority party switch also has an impact on presidential succession. No change to the first and second in line, of course; Vice President Biden and Speaker of the House John Boehner aren't going anywhere. Do you know who's third in line?

It's the President Pro Tempore, or President Pro Tem, of the Senate, which by custom is the senior senator of the majority party. Currently it's democratic Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont; when the new Senate is sworn in, republican Senator Orrin Hatch, age 80, will assume the title. After the VP, the House Speaker and the President Pro Tem, cabinet secretaries come next, in the order in which their department was created. The first five places in line look like this: 
  1. Vice President Joe Biden
  2. Speaker of the House John Boehner
  3. President Pro Tem of the Senate Patrick Leahy, soon to be Orrin Hatch
  4. Secretary of State John Kerry
  5. Secretary of the Treasury Jack Lew
You'll notice that all five are men. A few years ago, Senator Robert Byrd was the President Pro Tem. When he died in June, 2010, there was a brief period of time when that position was vacant, with the result that #2 in line was House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and the temporary #3 was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. To put it another way, #2 and #3 were women, which I thought was cool. Right now the highest ranking woman is Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell, at #8, but when Loretta Lynch becomes Attorney General, she'll slot in ahead of Jewell at #7. 

I know this is total Social Studies nerdville. I think I've written before about how I got interested in presidential succession: it was a plot point on The West Wing. At the end of season 4, President Bartlet temporarily steps down when his daughter is kidnapped. The Vice President had recently resigned due to a sex scandal, so the Speaker of the House, played by John Goodman, is sworn in as the temporary president. That makes the President Pro Tem next in line. Here's the scene:

Note: I just noticed the typo in the word "relieved" in the title below. That's not me, I lifted it intact from YouTube. 

  

Sunday, August 4, 2013

Succession

No, not to the British throne, this time I'm talking about succession to the Presidency. Back in 2010, I was struck by the fact that for a brief moment in history, the #2 spot (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi) and the #3 spot (Secretary of State Hillary Clinton) were held by women. This was caused by the death of the usual #3, the President Pro Tem of the Senate (Senator Robert Byrd). Even after Senator Daniel Inouye took over as President Pro Tem, Pelosi and Clinton were #2 and #4, which meant that two out of the first five were women, which I thought was cool. Just like the Brits however, we're now back to all men at the front of the line:

1. Vice President Joe Biden
2. Speaker of the House John Boehner
3. President Pro Tem of the Senate Patrick Leahy
4. Secretary of State John Kerry
5. Secretary of the Treasury Jack Lew

The first woman in line is currently the Secretary of the Interior, Sally Jewell, who is 8th. How did I get interested in the minutiae of Presidential succession? It was a plot point on The West Wing. At the end of season four, President Bartlet temporarily steps down, and because the Vice President had resigned due to a sex scandal, the Speaker of the House, played by John Goodman, is sworn in as president. Nerdy Will Bailey points out that at that point, the President Pro Tem of the Senate is next in line.

By the way, over in England, the first woman in line to be Queen is now #6, Princess Beatrice.